http://sjcuthbertson.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/yay-for-pine/ Philosophy, cookery and geekery Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:30:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ http://sjcuthbertson.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/yay-for-pine/#comment-48 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:22:00 +0000 http://www.sjcuthbertson.me.uk/wordpress/2007/12/09/yay-for-pine/#comment-48 This is also why it's awkward with Gmail labels – it only understands them as folders. Gmail allows the same message to be in multible labels, whilst PINE sees unconnected (but identical) messages in a number of different folders. I DON'T mean labels in the thunderbird sense – i.e. "Important", "To Do", "Funny" etc – I mean the Gmail labels which are used in place of folders within the web interface. The Pine-mix page doesn't address this AFAICT.

]]> http://sjcuthbertson.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/yay-for-pine/#comment-47 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:15:00 +0000 http://www.sjcuthbertson.me.uk/wordpress/2007/12/09/yay-for-pine/#comment-47 I'm aware of the aggregate functionality – it is in fact on by default, in my installation at least! I meant starring in the specific Gmail way: it's not exactly the same as Important (or at least, doesn't have to be), but on investigation, it seems that Gmail does interpret a PINE * (important) flag as a web-interface Star, so thanks for that!It's much clunkier to unflag a message in PINE than unstar a message in my browser though…: *,!,* which is three shift-commands in a row, at opposite ends of the keyboard.By the "general NDAM philosophy", I meant that it's hard to make PINE send things to All Mail rather than Trash – which is what Gmail encourages. You can do this fairly (but not totally) trivially in Thunderbird. The issue is that if Gmail has something in Trash, all copies of it are in Trash, and you've really, properly deleted it, which is not what I want to do when "deleting" from a label-view – I simply want to remove that label. (cntd)

]]> http://sjcuthbertson.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/yay-for-pine/#comment-46 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:06:00 +0000 http://www.sjcuthbertson.me.uk/wordpress/2007/12/09/yay-for-pine/#comment-46 > far superior to PINE (which doesn’t support things like:> starring messagesIf you mean selecting multiple msgs then yes it does – look for 'enable-aggregate-command-set' in the config.If you mean marking msgs as important then *,* is the key combo you need…> and deals awkwardly with labelsMeaning? Labels are a (albeit nice) t-bird concept (and not an IMAP one) really – however, a quick google gives me:http://andrew.triumf.ca/email/pine-mix.htmlWhich makes pine nicely compatible…> And the general “never delete a message” philosophyUhm, what's wrong with PINE here? You can delete msgs if you want, or not if you want – if you enable the aggregate command set then pressing ; as you read msgs to end up in the same folder, then a,s,CTRL+T is a really quick way of organising msgs.In fact I tend to revert to PINE to do that when my inbox gets big; it's far more reliable than drag-n-drop if you have thousands of folders…So – YEY for (al)PINE

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